The Metal Treating Institute (MTI) hosted a special meeting for members at the Embassy Suites by Hilton in Downtown Pittsburgh, PA, on Monday, October 17, to review key Nadcap and AMEC topics. During the meeting, members addressed challenges that heat treaters face in Nadcap/audit compliance, how to navigate audits more effectively, and what suggestions to present to the Nadcap committee so that heat treaters would be better equipped for audits.
MTI’s Technical Standards Committee Co-Chairs Bob Ferry, VP of Engineering and Quality at FPM Heat Treat, and Edward (Ed) Engelhard, VP of Corporate Quality at Solar Atmospheres, facilitated the meeting. It was hosted by Tom Morrison, CEO MTI Management, and Jim Orr, president of Penna Flame Industries and current president of MTI. Several attendees who made particularly significant contributions to the discussion were; Doug Shuler, lead auditor at Pyro Consulting, LLC; and Roy Adkins, director of Corporate Quality at Braddock Metallurgical and recipient of the 2022 MTI Award of Industry Merit.
Including (l-r): Doug Glenn, Ed Engelhard, Bob Ferry, and Doug Shuler
At the meeting, attendees identified the number one challenge in Nadcap/audit compliance is understanding and implementing new Nadcap revisions; a close second was the challenge of ensuring quality when auditors give different feedback. These challenges were addressed in the meeting, especially when discussing two specific topics: first, Auditee Advisories – Type P (Potential Product Impact) and Type C (Confirmed Product Impact) as well as Audit Observations.
Several key points that came out of these discussions were to (1) always read up on the most recent revisions in order to be confident in your compliance with quality standards; (2) be sure to reference objective evidence on the Nadcap Checklist questions to help facilitate the audit; (3) let the Nadcap auditor do their job but address any clarifications/follow-ups to the staff engineer immediately; (4) investigate immediately when receiving a Type P write-up so that you can ask the auditor to add a comment on the limits of that product impact; and finally (5) always push-back on findings that are clearly not valid so that they are “voided” by the Performance Review Institute (PRI).
Another main point of the meeting was to address AMS2750H, an update consisting of editorial and language updates for added clarity.
Lastly, the facilitators of the meeting addressed aerospace standard AS13100: AESQ Quality Management System Requirements for Aero Engine Design and Production Organizations. The standard seeks to harmonize and simplify supplier quality requirements among the major aero engine manufacturers, supplemental to standard AS9100. This standard is in the process of being flowed down to the supply chain and compliance is required January 1 of 2023, meaning that heat treaters have a couple months to get up to standard.
This special meeting happens each year during the October Nadcap meeting in Pittsburgh, PA. MTI encourages heat treaters to attend the Nadcap meetings to share their invaluable voice to guide industry standards.
Photo caption for main image: Jim Orr speaks to members of MTI.
